{"id":22275,"date":"2015-03-04T17:29:54","date_gmt":"2015-03-04T23:29:54","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/?p=22275"},"modified":"2015-03-05T07:46:38","modified_gmt":"2015-03-05T13:46:38","slug":"qa-with-jorma-kaukonen-on-jefferson-airplane-and-judaism","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/qa-with-jorma-kaukonen-on-jefferson-airplane-and-judaism\/","title":{"rendered":"Q&#038;A with Jorma Kaukonen on Jefferson Airplane and Judaism"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>By GABE FRIEDMAN<\/p>\n<p>Jorma Kaukonen, who played guitar in classic rock bands Jefferson Airplane and Hot Tuna, has just released &#8220;Ain&#8217;t In No Hurry,&#8221; his first solo album since 2009.<\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_22282\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a title=\"Jorma Kaukonen\" href=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22282\" class=\"wp-image-22282 size-medium lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"jorma_mc_promo_14 (1)\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/300;\" \/><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22282\" class=\"wp-image-22282 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-300x300.jpg\" alt=\"jorma_mc_promo_14 (1)\" width=\"300\" height=\"300\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-300x300.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-150x150.jpg 150w, https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/jorma_mc_promo_14-1-1024x1024.jpg 1024w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-22282\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Guitar legend Jorma Kaukonen, 74, recently released his first solo album since 2009. (Scotty Hall)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>While Kaukonen&#8217;s guitar skills are legendary, few people know that he bought his first electric guitar by cashing Israel Bonds he received from his Jewish grandmother. On the eve of Jefferson Airplane\u2019s 50th anniversary, the 74-year-old Kaukonen, who lives in Athens, Ohio with his wife, a Jew-by-choice, talked to JTA about his Jewish family roots, the Torah scroll his great-grandfather worked on and why so many blues guitarists are Jewish. This interview has been condensed and edited.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So you\u2019re half Jewish and you didn\u2019t really have a Jewish upbringing, but I\u2019ve read that if things went differently you could have been Orthodox?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Interestingly enough, my father\u2019s parents came over from Finland in the 1800s and my mother\u2019s came over from Russia. So I\u2019m Jewish on my mother\u2019s side, which of course makes me Jewish. But my grandparents were a really interesting pair of people. My grandmother was a very, very secular Jew, even though she was a lifelong member of Hadassah and all that kind of stuff. And my grandfather, had he not been married to my grandmother, would have been an Orthodox Jew, but that\u2019s not how it played out.<\/p>\n<p>My dad was in the service during the Second World War, so I grew up with my grandparents a lot \u2013 and everything in their world was completely Jewish. I just didn\u2019t know much about the religion. They either spoke Hebrew, Yiddish or Russian, especially when they didn\u2019t want us to know what they were talking about \u2013 which worked really well by the way.<\/p>\n<p><strong>And your great-grandfather was a Torah scribe?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>In Ellington, Conn., there\u2019s a shul that one of my great-uncles helped design when he was 15. And my great-grandfather Shmuel actually \u2014 I don\u2019t know the correct word for this \u2014 but he actually scribed the Torah himself. When I was up there seven or eight years ago, my mom\u2019s last living first cousin was still alive, and she said \u201cWould you like to see the shul?\u201d<\/p>\n<p>Now I just happened to have a yarmulke in my pocket. I put it on and she goes: \u201cYou\u2019re such a good boy.\u201d I\u2019ll never forget that. We went in and they had a number of Torahs, and there was a small one that my great-grandfather had done.<\/p>\n<p><strong>You spent so much time on the road with Jefferson Airplane and Hot Tuna. Was there anything religious or spiritual going on while you were on the road all those years?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>I didn\u2019t really discover my Jewish identity in a concrete way until my wife converted about a decade or so ago. Were there spiritual things? Sure, because many people of my generation were questioning things in a way. And interestingly enough, think about how many Jewish guys were blues guitar players \u2014 whether they were electric guys like Mike Bloomfield, or guys who did everything like Dave Bromberg? There were so many of us who were of Jewish heritage who fell into that type of music.<\/p>\n<p>When my wife converted, the rabbi suggested that even though I had a bris when I was a kid that I was never really exposed to any of this stuff, largely because, I realize now, of my grandmother\u2019s vocal antipathy. So I went through the whole [conversion] process with my wife. We studied biblical Hebrew and all that kind of stuff. As a result I\u2019ve become very involved in our community, which is organized around what happens in the school [Ohio University].<\/p>\n<p>Interestingly enough, 70 miles away in Huntington, W. Va,there is a large synagogue. So as a result of my wife getting involved in this, I did too, and one time we were invited to come down by Margot Leverett, the great klezmer artist, and my friend Barry Mitterhoff, who plays mandolin with me. We went down and I remember we went to the synagogue \u2014 and I\u2019m sure this isn\u2019t the only time it\u2019s happened, but it\u2019s the only time it\u2019s happened to me \u2014 this guy came out with a cowboy hat on and boots, and he looked at me, put his hand down and said \u201cShalom, y\u2019all.\u201d That\u2019s how they do it in West Virginia sometimes.<\/p>\n<p><strong>So with Jefferson Airplane approaching its 50th, are you guys on good terms?<\/strong><\/p>\n<div id=\"attachment_22281\" style=\"width: 310px\" class=\"wp-caption alignleft\"><a title=\"Jefferson Airplane\" href=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full.jpg\" target=\"_blank\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22281\" class=\"wp-image-22281 size-medium lazyload\" data-src=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full-300x152.jpg\" alt=\"Jefferson_Airplane (full)\" width=\"300\" height=\"152\" data-srcset=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full-300x152.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full.jpg 963w\" data-sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" src=\"data:image\/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAAAAACH5BAEKAAEALAAAAAABAAEAAAICTAEAOw==\" style=\"--smush-placeholder-width: 300px; --smush-placeholder-aspect-ratio: 300\/152;\" \/><noscript><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-22281\" class=\"wp-image-22281 size-medium\" src=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full-300x152.jpg\" alt=\"Jefferson_Airplane (full)\" width=\"300\" height=\"152\" srcset=\"https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full-300x152.jpg 300w, https:\/\/www.crescentcityjewishnews.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2015\/03\/Jefferson_Airplane-full.jpg 963w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 300px) 100vw, 300px\" \/><\/noscript><\/a><\/p>\n<p id=\"caption-attachment-22281\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Jorma Kaukonen, far right, was a member of the seminal rock band Jefferson Airplane, shown here in 1966. (Wikimedia Commons)<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<p>Yeah, we are. Obviously with a big thing like a 50th anniversary, people wonder whether some of the guys would like to put the band back together again. Grace [Slick] doesn\u2019t sing anymore, so that means that\u2019s really out of the question. We\u2019d like to do something. We don\u2019t know what that is, whether it\u2019s just wandering around and yakking on talk shows or something like that. Maybe having some acoustic guitars and playing some songs and talking.<\/p>\n<p><strong>I was looking through some of your old solo albums, and some songs seemed to have some religious undertones \u2013 especially \u201cQuah,\u201d which includes the songs \u201cGenesis\u201d and \u201cI Am the Light of this World.\u201d<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>Right. \u201cI Am the Light of this World\u201d is a Rev. Gary Davis song. This is another thing that David Bromberg and I have talked about \u2014 and we wonder half-jokingly \u2014 why so many of us guys who are Jewish folk guitar players do so many songs that are from a Christian tradition. When I listen to a song like that, even though the reverend was obviously a Christian and spoke about Jesus a lot\u2014to me, that\u2019s a metaphor. And as Bromberg himself says, Jesus was a great rabbi. But there is something about spiritual songs that without focusing on the things that make them denominational, I find very uplifting.<\/p>\n<p><strong>How has your relationship to Judaism changed since your wife converted?<\/strong><\/p>\n<p>When I was finding my Jewish roots when my wife was converting, and when I spoke to the rabbi, one of the things that always came up for me, even when I didn\u2019t think about it, was that I felt very comfortable in the context of a Jewish milieu. I don\u2019t live in a Jewish context most of the time because that\u2019s not how my world works, but whenever it happens, I feel like I\u2019ve come home.<\/p>\n<p>One of the things that I really enjoy about my friends who are Jewish is that almost to a man or a woman, everyone really has a different take on the whole thing. I like that that is allowed to happen. I\u2019m not fond of dogma of any sort. And I know there\u2019s dogma in Judaism too, but I like that in spite of that there\u2019s a lot of wiggle room. 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